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How would you respond to this? The person who wrote this is very dear
to me and I want so badly to respond but don't know exactly how. This
is such a sad statement.
********************************** My "church" is my family and the people I care about- who i support and who supports me. And this is not a place to go on Sunday. It's a verb that happens in real-time. I do not have a preacher, and I am glad. As a woman, I have worked quite hard to not have another man or woman tell me my "proper" place in this world. And to say "I'm blessed" would mean that somebody else has not been. I am not special, or blessed, or chosen because of a religion- I am alive, I am happy, I have used my brain to to come far, and I've been darn lucky. *********************************** Please note that I will most likely appropriate your response
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Can you provide more context?
Have they ever been Catholic?
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What she said is amazing.
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It sorta came out of the blue, and she has not been Catholic.
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I don't think this is a sad statement at all. She is speaking about universal and unconditional love for all and that she sees and feels it everywhere she goes, with each person, each day of the week. It is something, she says, that she lives every moment. She speaks beautifully about her family and friends and the support they give each other. I understand what she is saying about being a woman and not wanting to be told her options are limited--I assume most women of a certain generation would understand that. Her words sounds very positive to me, not sad. She sounds very happy and loving. .
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Unfortunately all churches are not a safe place to be, but I believe
most still are. I am happy for her that she is happy and independent;
hopefully she attributes these things to God. A lot of churches I have
witnessed can have predatory members and cliques who gossip and malign
to no end. Some have a lot of intrusive and destructive entities also.
Since she has not found a good fit as yet it’s best to stick to online
services if she wants to give it another try, God knows her heart.
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If my friend, out of the blue, said the above, I would first tell her that the RCC would agree with the part about her family being her church...the domestic church is where faith counts (the most IMO). Since I grew up in a family that acted Christian for just an hour a week, I can appreciate how some people might have a false idea of what "Church" means. Then I might say "Even though you have used your brain to come far, and you have, Someone always gives us some help somewhere along the way. I can't take sole credit for my achievements in life." Then "I feel affirmed as a loved member of the body of Christ at my church and would love it if you wanted to join me sometime." I don't think it would be helpful to argue or pounce. Just a gentle nudge. Perhaps the Holy Spirit guided her to approach you with her position (God sure doesn't need our permission to intercede). God bless you for caring for her soul |
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[quote=HoosMommie;11204237]How would you respond to this?
This is such a sad statement. My "church" is my family and the people I care about- who i support and who supports me. And this is not a place to go on Sunday. It's a verb that happens in real-time. I do not have a preacher, and I am glad. As a woman, I have worked quite hard to not have another man or woman tell me my "proper" place in this world. And to say "I'm blessed" would mean that somebody else has not been. I am not special, or blessed, or chosen because of a religion- I am alive, I am happy, I have used my brain to to come far, and I've been darn lucky. your friend is right-- church means assembly and with out the Holy Spirit -- any church or assembly is the same-- just like wednesday nit "poker" and as a 2 year old child-- my church or assembly taught me that Santa Claus was real-- but then i learned the truth- Re: Catholic Questions Re: Ekklesia Does Not mean Church FROM Ncc Ccn TO 2 recipientscatholicquestions@yahoogroups. com[/email] James There is no one blinder than the one that does not want to see nor more deaf than the one that does not want to hear: I stated that EkKlesia means Assembly in all the Latin languishes And that the Latin words for Ekklecia translate to Church in English In other words you are Correct Ekklesia Means Assembly But you are missing the point that Church also means Assembly Here is the Webster definition of CHURCH: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/church 1 : a building for public and especially Christian worship 2 : the clergy or officialdom of a religious body 3 often capitalized : a body or organization of religious believers: as a : the whole body of Christians b : denomination <the Presbyterian church> c : congregation 4 : a public divine worship <goes to church every Sunday> 5 : the clerical profession <considered the church as a possible career> As you can see Church means Congregation Here is the definition of Congregation : http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/congregation a : an assembly of persons : gathering; especially : an assembly of persons met for worship and religious instruction b : a religious community: as (1) : an organized body of believers in a particular locality (2) : a Roman Catholic religious institute with only simple vows (3) : a group of monasteries forming an independent subdivision of an order 2: the act or an instance of congregating or bringing together : the state of being congregated 3: a body of cardinals and officials forming an administrative division of the papal curia Synonyms assembly, church Bernardo From: Jozinky <jozinky@pa.net> To: catholicquestions@yahoogroups.com Cc: Ncc <ncc.0923@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Catholic Questions Re: Ekklesia Does Not mean Church Maybe so but that still does not make the Greek word Ekklesia mean church. It doesn't. James / On 6/27/2013 4:04 PM, Ncc wrote: > > > Well in Spanish Iglecia means Congregation, assembly, association, > body, Sociality etc etc > And the same goes for Italian (Chiesa), portugeese (Igreja), French > (Egise), Catalan (Lesglesia) > Y mention this because many word in Latin have its roots on Greek, and > Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French and Catalan they all are Latin > derived languages > > BTW they are also pronounced almost the same as Eklklesia > And the translation form any of these languages to English will yield > "Church" in other words Church and Assembly are considered synonymous > in the 5 Latin languages, > > Bernardo > > --- In catholicquestions@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:catholicquestions%40yahoogroups. com>, "danielokeefe1" > <danielokeefe1@...> wrote: > > > > Passion Points - Why say "Church" instead of "Synagogue?" > > > > > > > > Passion Points - Why say "Church" instead of "Synagogue?" > > > > Passion Points - When did the "Church" begin? > > > > http://youtu.be/hjd_83IYAHA > > > > > > > > Passion Points - Why say "Church" instead of "Synagogue?" > > > > http://youtu.be/3zb7OV3kw78 > > > > > > Published on Mar 21, 2013 > > This excerpt is from Pastor Jim Staley's message entitled "Torah > Portion Vayakhel/Pekudei", from March 9, 2013. To view the full > message, go to http://youtu.be/tdccOILfqmE.For more teachings > > > > --- In catholicquestions@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:catholicquestions%40yahoogroups. com>, Brian Atwood > <specimenb@> wrote: > > > > > > So, all the Greek lexicons and all the linguistic scholars are > wrong, but > > > you're right simply because it just doesn't sound like it should be > > > translated as church. Nice one, James. I gave you numerous dictionary > > > definitions and lexicons. I even used your own definition to show that > > > church and assembly used in the Bible were synonomous. But you're > right. I > > > can't usurp the authority you have in your own head > > > > > > > --- In catholicquestions@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:catholicquestions%40yahoogroups. com>, Jozinky <jozinky@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Brian. > > > . > > > On 6/26/2013 4:45 PM, Brian Atwood wrote: > > > > You must have stopped reading if you think you proved otherwise. > Every > > > > Greek lexicon translates ekklesia to church. > > > ........ > > > Then every Greek lexicon is incorrect. > > > ............ > > > > So what is your evidence that it doesn't? > > > .................. > > > Simple. It doesn't. One does not have to produce evidence to prove > that > > > a word does not mean something. It's the other way around. So... > what's > > > -your- evidence it does? From the Biblical Greek Mss please. Thank > you. > > > > > > James > > > . |